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Crystalline spheres
Chatgpt on crystalling spheres
Can you give a general review of crystalline spheres in astronomy?
Crystalline spheres were a key concept in ancient and medieval astronomy, used to explain the motion of celestial bodies in a geocentric (Earth-centered) universe. This idea originated with Eudoxus of Cnidus (4th century BCE) and was later refined by Aristotle, Ptolemy, and medieval scholars.
Origins and Development
- Eudoxus’ Homocentric Spheres
Eudoxus introduced a system of concentric spheres to explain planetary motion. Each planet was embedded in a set of spheres that rotated at different angles, producing observed motions. - Aristotle’s Refinement
Aristotle (4th century BCE) incorporated crystalline spheres into his cosmology, making them physical, transparent structures composed of an incorruptible element called aether or quintessence. Each sphere carried a celestial body (Sun, Moon, planets, and stars) in perfect circular motion around Earth. - Ptolemaic System
Claudius Ptolemy (2nd century CE) built on Aristotle’s ideas but introduced epicycles and deferents to improve predictions of planetary motion. The crystalline spheres became mathematical tools rather than strict physical entities. - Medieval and Scholastic Adoption
Islamic and European medieval scholars (e.g., Al-Farabi, Avicenna, Albertus Magnus, Thomas Aquinas) accepted the crystalline spheres as real structures, often integrating them with Christian and Islamic theology.
Challenges and Decline
- Observational Issues
- By the late Middle Ages, discrepancies in planetary motion (e.g., the irregular paths of Mars and Venus) made the crystalline spheres less effective as a model.
- The concept struggled to explain variations in brightness and planetary speed.
- By the late Middle Ages, discrepancies in planetary motion (e.g., the irregular paths of Mars and Venus) made the crystalline spheres less effective as a model.
- Copernican Revolution
- In 1543, Nicolaus Copernicus proposed a heliocentric model where planets orbited the Sun, making crystalline spheres unnecessary.
- In 1543, Nicolaus Copernicus proposed a heliocentric model where planets orbited the Sun, making crystalline spheres unnecessary.
- Tycho Brahe & Kepler
- Tycho Brahe’s observations (late 16th century) showed that the nova (supernova of 1572) and the Great Comet of 1577 moved freely through the heavens, suggesting the absence of solid celestial spheres.
- Johannes Kepler (early 17th century) replaced circular orbits with elliptical ones, further undermining the need for crystalline spheres.
- Tycho Brahe’s observations (late 16th century) showed that the nova (supernova of 1572) and the Great Comet of 1577 moved freely through the heavens, suggesting the absence of solid celestial spheres.
- Galileo & Newton
- Galileo’s telescopic discoveries (1610), such as the moons of Jupiter and the phases of Venus, supported a dynamic, heliocentric system.
- Isaac Newton (1687) introduced the concept of gravity, which explained planetary motion without the need for physical spheres.
- Galileo’s telescopic discoveries (1610), such as the moons of Jupiter and the phases of Venus, supported a dynamic, heliocentric system.
Legacy
- Crystalline spheres were an essential step in the history of astronomy, providing a structured way to model celestial motion.
- Though obsolete, the idea influenced later theories, including Kepler’s notion of nested geometric solids and early mechanical models of the solar system.
Would you like a comparison between crystalline spheres and modern celestial mechanics?
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Is Aristotle the originator of the word aether? I thought aether was an insubstantial substance that permeated the universe. (Maxwell required aether for his electromagnetic theory, correct?) But Aristotle appears to say that the crystalline spheres were made of aether not the universe. Can you clarify?
Yes, Aristotle is often credited with introducing aether as the fifth element (quinta essentia), distinct from the four earthly elements (earth, water, air, and fire). However, the concept of aether has a longer history, and its meaning evolved over time.
Aristotle’s Aether
Aristotle described aether as the substance that made up the heavens, including the crystalline spheres that carried the Sun, Moon, planets, and stars. Unlike the four terrestrial elements, aether was:
- Incorruptible and eternal (it did not change or decay).
- Capable of only one type of motion: perfect circular motion.
- The pure, divine material of celestial bodies.
So in Aristotle’s model, aether was not a universal medium filling all of space but rather the material composing the celestial spheres themselves.
Aether in Other Traditions
Before Aristotle, aether was used in various ways:
- Pre-Socratic philosophers: Some, like Anaximenes, spoke of a celestial or cosmic air-like substance, but it wasn’t identical to Aristotle’s concept.
- Plato: In the Timaeus, Plato suggested the heavens were made of a unique material, but he didn’t name it aether.
- Stoics: They treated aether as a fiery, divine principle that pervaded the cosmos.
Aether in Physics (17th–19th Century)
Later, aether was revived in a different sense:
- René Descartes (17th century): Proposed an “aether” as a mechanical medium for transmitting forces in space.
- James Clerk Maxwell (19th century): His equations for electromagnetism implied that electromagnetic waves needed a medium to travel through, so physicists assumed the existence of an “aether” filling all of space.
- Michelson-Morley Experiment (1887): This experiment failed to detect aether, leading to its rejection and paving the way for Einstein’s special relativity (1905), which showed that light propagates without needing a medium.
Key Clarifications
- Aristotle’s aether ≠ Maxwell’s aether
- Aristotle’s aether was the substance of celestial bodies (not a medium filling space).
- Maxwell’s aether was a hypothetical medium permeating space for wave propagation.
- Aristotle’s aether was the substance of celestial bodies (not a medium filling space).
- Aristotle’s crystalline spheres were made of aether, not space itself
- He didn’t envision empty space but instead saw the universe as full of material structures.
- He didn’t envision empty space but instead saw the universe as full of material structures.
- The modern concept of the vacuum (empty space) was foreign to Aristotle
- He believed nature abhorred a vacuum, whereas later physics accepted space as a void where electromagnetic waves travel without a medium.
- He believed nature abhorred a vacuum, whereas later physics accepted space as a void where electromagnetic waves travel without a medium.
Let me know if you’d like more details on any of these points!
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Too complex. I need to read what you wrote first. I was interested in crystalline spheres because of an analogy I think exists with Newton’s forceful orbits. The way ancients thought that orbits needed to be held in space attached to a sphere, Newton’s force exists to keep the objects in orbits. Newton’s forceful orbits would be unintelligible for Galileo who thought that circular motions (orbits) were natural motions. Any thoughts on this analogy?
That’s an interesting analogy. Here’s one way to think about it:
- Crystalline Spheres:
In the ancient view, celestial bodies were thought to be fixed to transparent, rotating spheres. These spheres provided a physical “track” for the planets, explaining their steady, circular motions. The idea was that without being attached to these spheres, the heavens would simply be chaotic. - Newton’s Orbits:
Newton replaced those solid spheres with a dynamic force—gravity. In his view, planets aren’t physically attached to anything; rather, they are in continuous free-fall toward the Sun. Their inertia (tendency to move in a straight line) and the Sun’s gravitational pull balance perfectly to create curved, elliptical (nearly circular, in many cases) orbits. So instead of a fixed sphere holding the planet in place, it’s the gravitational force that continuously “redirects” the planet. - Galileo’s Perspective:
Galileo, influenced by the idea of natural, perfect circular motion, might have found the notion of an external force “forcing” orbits to be unintuitive. In his view, celestial motions were inherent and natural. Newton’s idea of a continuous, invisible force acting over a distance was a radical departure from that, offering a dynamic explanation rather than one based on static, physical structures like crystalline spheres.
In essence, both models tried to explain the same observations—why planets move as they do—but they did so very differently. The crystalline spheres provided a tangible, mechanical system, while Newton’s gravitational force introduced the idea that motion could be maintained by a continual, attractive force acting in the void of space.